Inside The Minds Fifth Amendment, and he was fired. He applied for a job with us, and we hired him, as well. We were a small company at the time, perhaps 25 or 30 people, so word soon got around that if you took the Fifth Amendment and got fired, go to Ruder Finn for a job. Soon a third man who took the Fifth Amendment applied for a job, and we began to worry about what we should do. Three of us were managing the company then, Bill Ruder and I together with Paul Zucker, who was our executive vic